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18 Therefore, those of Yehudah did not believe that the man had been ivver (blind) until they called the horim of the man whose eyes were opened.

19 And they asked the horim, saying, Is this the ben of you, whom you say was born ivver? How, therefore, does he now have sight?

20 In reply, therefore, his horim said, We have da’as that this man is the ben of us and that he was born ivver,

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